Saturday, January 2nd 2021

NVIDIA Could Give a SUPER Overhaul to its GeForce RTX 3070 and RTX 3080 Graphics Cards

According to kopite7kimi, a famous leaker of information about NVIDIA graphics cards, we have some pieces of data about NVIDIA's plans to bring back its SUPER series of graphics cards. The SUPER graphics cards have first appeared in the GeForce RTX 2000 series "Turing" GPUs with GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER and RTX 2070 SUPER designs, after which RTX 2060 followed. Thanks to the source, we have information that NVIDIA plans to give its newest "Ampere" 3000 series of GeForce RTX GPUs a SUPER overhaul. Specifically, the company allegedly plans to introduce GeForce RTX 3070 SUPER and RTX 3080 SUPER SKUs to its offerings.

While there is no concrete information about the possible specifications of these cards, we can speculate that just like the previous SUPER upgrade, new cards would receive an upgrade in CUDA core count, and possibly a memory improvement. The last time a SUPER upgrade happened, NVIDIA just added more cores to the GPU and overclocked the GDDR6 memory and thus increased the memory bandwidth. We have to wait and see how the company plans to position these alleged cards and if we get them at all, so take this information with a grain of salt.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 SUPER Mock-Up
This is only a mock-up image and is not representing a real product.
Sources: @kopite7kimi (Twitter), via VideoCardz
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102 Comments on NVIDIA Could Give a SUPER Overhaul to its GeForce RTX 3070 and RTX 3080 Graphics Cards

#1
ZoneDymo
man a Super version of Vaporware, this is just hilarious
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#2
repman244
Will it be super rare to buy as well?
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#4
Verpal
Best case scenario 3080 Super could be a RTX 3090 with 12GB VRAM, I doubt that will happen though.
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#5
MxPhenom 216
ASIC Engineer
Looks like ill be holding out a while longer if these end up being a reality.

*Gives encouragement tap to the ol' 1070*
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#6
TechLurker
It seems so weird, strange, and hilarious all at once that NVIDIA is already rushing out SUPER equivalents and it hasn't even been a year into their originals' release. Early adopters have really drawn the short-end of the stick this time around.

It's not like AMD was already planning a refresh or refined node update of their Radeon 6000 series either (say, to TSMC 6nm or updated bandwidth or improved Infinity Cache); and aside from RT performance , all the cards trade blows pretty evenly (save for the 3090 that mostly beats the 6900XT). They still win on the RT front, so they could have afforded to wait a bit; ideally, until stock finally leveled out or they built up enough actual material reserve to produce SUPERs without limited stock.

Then again, maybe they're trying to be Apple and insist on constant must-have upgrades, and have the hardcore fans buy into the new SUPERs at marked up prices while selling off their early gen 3070s/3080s at whatever the current scalping average is; which conveniently floods the market with both new and used 3070s/3080s to replenish stock.
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#7
ymbaja
TechLurker
It seems so weird, strange, and hilarious all at once..
TechLurker
Then again, maybe they're trying to be Apple and insist on constant must-have upgrades, and have the hardcore fans buy into the new SUPERs at marked up prices while selling off their early gen 3070s/3080s at whatever the current scalping average is; which conveniently floods the market with both new and used 3070s/3080s to replenish stock.
I think you may have hit on something here. Launching a new line of cards does several things... creates shareholder buzz, conveniently takes the low availability of the current line out of the spotlight and allows nvidia to increase prices on the new line to capitalize on the current state of things. Basically it creates the illusion in the media that everything is just fine...
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#8
cst1992
It's weird seeing an anticipation of both the 3080 Ti and 3080 Super at the same time.
Also the 3060 is coming this month at CES, possibly a SUPER for that as well?
One thing I'm almost certain of: the Ti's will be faster than the SUPERs, as they always have been.
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#9
ypsylon
I'll believe I have new card to replace my (still decent) 1080Tis when I actually remove my old cards and plug a new one, and finish first render.

Sick and tired of this unobtanium-vaporware stuff. And now even Super version of it! At least when 1080Ti was on the market with decent stock, first nVidia mining craze hit. You could actually buy these cards for a good while (even if retailers started scalping also very early - Caseking was probably worst and earliest in EU). Now we have no cards, no stock, no choice what to buy and pricing is already so far from what it should be... I really wish no cards were released at all.

Until selling VGAs is not tied in some way to specific personal data like for example ID+Social Sec # or insurance #, passport. So you can actually buy 1 darn card per person with certified confirmation of ID we, normal users, will have to deal with this shit every single time.
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#10
Legacy-ZA
I am sure it will also be super expensive.
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#11
Lycanwolfen
Super 3070's SLI option I'm 100% in.

Otherwise my old 1070ti's in SLi still running strong was playing old DOOM last night 100 FPS average 4k just running sweet.
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#12
§¢?rT??n?
It's like puting Nikes on the Sasquatch... I still looking to find a 3070 FE to my m-itx PC...
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#13
saki630
Super 3070 for December 2021. For everyone else, RTX3070/80 released April 2021 while RTX3090's will be on preorder from Feb-April to trick you into buying it.
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#14
23$Pa
Can only thing of two good reasons to go super so soon
1. AMD have something up their sleeve.
2. Nvidia has lots of die's that are not making the cut.
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#15
Chomiq
Their lineup will be a freaking mess.
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#16
Fluffmeister
23$Pa
Can only thing of two good reasons to go super so soon
1. AMD have something up their sleeve.
2. Nvidia has lots of die's that are not making the cut.
The sad reality is AMD's new cards are even harder to get hold of... and that's quite a feat.
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#17
wolf
Performance Enthusiast
TechLurker
Early adopters have really drawn the short-end of the stick this time around.
I certainly don't feel this sentiment. Have been lucky enough to have a 3080 from launch week. New tech always gets superceded, sooner, later, it doesn't matter to me, I just want it when it's new and bleeding edge.
At this rate I'd wager the best they can manage is a 3080/3070 super/ti that is 10% faster than its original counterpart, that doesn't immediately make your 3070/3080 slow. One way or another they were always destined to be superceded, best be at peace with that from the get go or you'll always be dissapointed.
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#18
DeathtoGnomes
I find the idea of Nvidia producing super's ridiculous, purchasing single digit differences in performance is stupid. I see less than $75 differences for less than 10% performance, just save up an extra month for the better card.
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#19
nuggdoctor
with the leaks of 40 series cards does anyone really give a crap about yet another paper launch that was hijacked by bots? They better have WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY more quantity available and have a way of STOPPING bot bulk purchases or theres going to be lawsuits. Watch and see. Im calling it now :)

Preorder any product or more specifically a gpu and get told on day one that its not available and you have to wait 6 months. Bet ild sue for fraud aka bait and switch, and deliberately overselling a product they cant provide and not offering some form of compensation or substitute for the lack of availability on DAY 1 when youve already paid for the product in full is flat out fraud.

Im going to preorder the 4080 ti 20gb variant in a hybrid. if its 1200 or whatever it doesnt matter. and if it isnt here DAY 1 when those models are supposed to launch? well we will cross that bridge when we come to it ;)

And dont just take the legal stuff from me, even though i do youtube videos helping parents keep their kids from being kidnapped by state contracted employees aka cps/dhs. And have defended myself in court over 9 times and have never lost. Take it from the FTC. And this is if you order ANYTHING and it doesnt show up. the reason it would be different with nvidia is because this has happened multiple times. anyone remember the 980ti launch? or the 1080ti launch? the 2080ti launch wasnt as bad because the price was so much higher than before and the performance increase wasnt as substantial as the other 2 had. www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0221-billed-merchandise-you-never-received
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#20
KrazedOmega
How about no? They can't even get enough of the base model cards out of the door, never mind about Ti and Super variants.
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#21
TheinsanegamerN
nuggdoctor
with the leaks of 40 series cards does anyone really give a crap about yet another paper launch that was hijacked by bots? They better have WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY more quantity available and have a way of STOPPING bot bulk purchases or theres going to be lawsuits. Watch and see. Im calling it now :)

Preorder any product or more specifically a gpu and get told on day one that its not available and you have to wait 6 months. Bet ild sue for fraud aka bait and switch, and deliberately overselling a product they cant provide and not offering some form of compensation or substitute for the lack of availability on DAY 1 when youve already paid for the product in full is flat out fraud.

Im going to preorder the 4080 ti 20gb variant in a hybrid. if its 1200 or whatever it doesnt matter. and if it isnt here DAY 1 when those models are supposed to launch? well we will cross that bridge when we come to it ;)

And dont just take the legal stuff from me, even though i do youtube videos helping parents keep their kids from being kidnapped by state contracted employees aka cps/dhs. And have defended myself in court over 9 times and have never lost. Take it from the FTC. And this is if you order ANYTHING and it doesnt show up. the reason it would be different with nvidia is because this has happened multiple times. anyone remember the 980ti launch? or the 1080ti launch? the 2080ti launch wasnt as bad because the price was so much higher than before and the performance increase wasnt as substantial as the other 2 had. www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0221-billed-merchandise-you-never-received
Did the glowing CIA agents you fought against in court for kidnapping give you some nice power to snuff along the way?
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#22
nuggdoctor
With comp from all angles nvidia had to step their game Way WAy up. thats why theyre on to the 40 series. the specs and designs and everything for the 30 series had been finalized a loooonnnnggggg time ago. The 40 series will see a massive leap in performance over the 30 series and for people like me that are on a ftw3 1080ti hybrid, we finally have something worth upgrading for. If like me, you dont care about ray-tracing then there hasnt been any reason to upgrade. but with the 40 series leaks that ive seen it looks to FINALLY be worth it. theyre going to milk the buttload of different 30 series cards, for one simple reason. to pay for the mass insane production of 40 series cards to have availability on their launch day. But until then we are all left with whatever they decide to throw out there. i did a video awhile back talking about why now is a terrible time to buy ANY electronics. nothing has changed since then unfortunately :(
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#23
destruya
They really, REALLY need to stop adding new SKUs. :shadedshu:
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#24
nuggdoctor
TheinsanegamerN
Did the glowing CIA agents you fought against in court for kidnapping give you some nice power to snuff along the way?
Lmao. look up color of law sometime. guess the over 4000 parents that watched my vid for help defending themselves are all crazy or full of it too.
destruya
They really, REALLY need to stop adding new SKUs. :shadedshu:
they have to milk the miners. its not gamers using bots to get bulk cards. its miners and resellers creating a false market.

NVIDIA 5 nm Lovelace AD102 is the 40 series.
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#25
ThrashZone
Hi,
Yep knew superduper was coming now get the 3080TI done :-)
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